joeyflex69 protocols gh and slin

 1)

I like to keep things on the simple side. Ive changed up some stuff.

So far for putting back most of my size lean- this is my best protocol- almost no sides- not tired- as many of you know have had 2 surgies so far and may need another.

Im at about 90% of where I was at, it took about 1 year 1 year 2 month's

18iu serostim now EOD ( I can afford more then 3 times a week)
100mcg t-4 daily
1mg armidex every 3 days- I was getting horrible joint pain with more-
15iu novolog post workout only on workout days year round
50-70iu of lantus 1 time a week year round on leg or back big muscle group days
EOD-1 shot of 200mg test cyp/250mg sust/200mg deca/300mg of EQ (1 cc of each every other day)

That's it.
Diet is very very good, mostly fish, egg whites lean beef - fish always at night
macro- carbs about 250gm protein 350-400gm fats less then 70gm

training 2 days on 1 day off. 5 days a week
cardio- walk 3-5 miles a day with carriage and or Dogs. 5-7 days a week heart rate 100-120bpm

in the last 6 months I have went from 238-240 at 13% to 267 at 9%

2)

This will be a valuable thread with no bullshit
Pure facts. No bro science no studies etc. Just what a top coach will tell you. Save yourself money

So you wanna look like a pro??

Genetics are important especially in 10 top otherwise dont worry too much. Gear response and specifically gh repsonse and how much igf your body converts your gh to ans how you resoond to insulin
Bone structure is important small waist ams joints
Long full muscle bellies

1. A strong mind rock solid
2. Eat the same shit day in day out 5-20 years without missing a meal. Lets say 1 a month is fine.
3. Know how ans when to use cheatmeals to grow frequency is based on gh respose and body fat .
4. Keep shit simple pin what works year after year non stop
5. Sleep enough 7-8rs min
6. Train correctly
7. Nutrition again
8. Find out what works training wise and repeat
9 cut your body fat to 6% or less at least 1-2 times a year or compete this is very important. Even if you only stay there a week or 2.
10. Progressively raise your hormone ans gh intake and food intake as needed

High tolerance

Meaning don't start off with a gram of test ans 12iu of gh with insulin

Lets say this starting

600mg test cup or e
800mg eq
50mg ed winny if your fat
75mg tren eod
1mg armidex eod or 10mg nolva if not on gh
If you can afford gh 4-5 ed

Years later now your a heavy weight super heavy weight
What will you be on year round

10-30iu of gh
1000-3000mcg of test usually 2 esters
1000-2000mg of eq
1mg ed arimidex
Some add 1000mg deca
50-300iu of insulin a day

Orals fuck up your apptite especially anadrol. These are used strictly precontest last 3 weeks to keep you full and so you can diet and not binge

Tren
Winny
Stanolone
Masteron
Proviron
Halotest are used strictly last 8 weeks with diet and cardio

Higher level involves more stuff that cannot be dicussed here due to policy and safety such as plasma expanders sythol, escaline, dnp, duetieic regments along with insulin ( not safe due to electrolite imbalances ) combined with restricting water. This is all what I want everyone to avoid, unless your stepping on olpmpyia stage which you already know the above. Many pros do not use dnp its poison and deadly and not needed.

Ask questions away except about the banned subances in just mentioned

3)

I have switched to hgh 3 Times a week to emulate body's natural pulses

Was using serostim 6iu ed

Now  m w f 18iu sersostim total 54iu wk

On 900mg sust
800mg cyp and test e
750mg deca
1000mg eq
1mg arimidex ed

I recommend switch from nolvadex to arimidex since it's a SERM

I am bigger and leaner then last time on 9iu ed

Some pros having been running like this

Plus low insulin
Log 10iu breakfast log 10iu post workout on training days only

I switched because ghlr3 talked me into it I use mostly pharma grade when it's avail

4)

So what does a pro insulin protocol look like?

First off don't do this-its not for you build up and work with a coach- this will not make you huge over night-

Lantus daily 30-60iu

novolog 25-40iu Every meal all 6-8

Pre and post workout

some also use R pre and post workout (double peak insulin staking) rest log only

some do this high run only 2 days a week heavy training days

rest of the week

lantus 30-60iu

and log pre and post workout or some simply prefur R for this.

Globallly an 8 week run

with t3 50-150mcg a day

with 18iu gh pharma grade split up to 3 injections daily some do 4

or some do

20-30iu gh Every other day in one shot post workout

some are using increlex with this 5-10mg a day

some are using grams of test

some are using igf-1 des 100mcg in each muscle spot injects.

some are using igf-1 lr3 100-300mcg post workout 40 days on and off.

Some will only eat carbs with insulin or no carbs at all no insulin

some doseage is higher or lower do to resistance-

5)

Simple lesion

What I would do if I was you?

1. train naturally for 2-4 years until I failed to progress- eating training and resting correctly. base or foundation

2. drop my bodyfat as low as possible while being natural, without being in a catabolic state- lean how to diet and how to eat correct.

3. stay in this depleted state for 4- 6 weeks

3. 1st cycle Add in

500mg test cyp or enathate wk

600mg eq

50mg of masteron daily

10mg of nolvadex or any anti estrogen

continue this for 12-15 weeks

week 16

drop down to test cyp 300mg wk

10mg nolvadex

Week 20 or 24 your choice

Test cyp or enthat 500mg wk

deca 600mg wk

proviron 50mg daily

10mg nolvadex daily or any anti ei

Use this till week 32 or 36 (12 weeks)

Week 36

test prop 50mg daily

test cyp 200mg wk

Tren ace 50-100mg EOD

masteron 50mg daily

Winny 50mg daily

Any anti estrogen

10 weeks only

week 46- 50

test cyp 300mg or enthate

10mg nolvadex

weeks 50-62

Sust 250mg 3 times a week

test cyp 100-200mg a week

Deca 800mg wk

dbol 40-50mg daily first 4 weeks or 6

20mg nolvadex daily or 1mg arimidex.

if you can afford it starting week 1 add pharma gh 4iu daily, at the middle you can use 6iu GH daily.

can split in 2 shots am and afternoon or at night if over 35. ED not 5/2 6/1 blah blah

after year 1 can introduce 8-12iu of humalin r or Log post workout only on workout days for 4-8 weeks max taking off min 8 weeks off time

Training split should be for size 2 days on 1 day off compound movements- hammer strgenth barbell dumbbell ect.

conditioning training split is 6 days a week m to sat with sunday off LESS intense lighter weights more isolation and cable- look for weeks of corisponding hormones.

Diet should be min 5-6 meals taking in 40-60gm of protein every 3 hours- more red meat for bulking more fish for leaning out - look at hormones. as in tren winny and fish, sust deca and steak. macros carbs fats adjusted accroundingly. high carbs low fats or high fats low carbs protein stays same sometimes alittle higher.

keep diet simple yams oats brown rice white rice fish eggs, steak water, coffee. cheat meal

Diet Training I like chris acetos works

training I like -Charles glass

Hormones training- chad Nichols

watch videos and read, plenty of free advice.

6)

Sample blueprint

Ideally your at under 12% no money for gh

Aas only

Ed 50mg test prop

Ed 100mg tren ace

Ed 20mg nolvadex

Ed 50mg of proviron

Eod 50mg of masteron

Wk 250mg test cyp or ethante.

If your not getting lean enough after 4- 6 weeks

Can add 50mg ed of winny

If you feel like adding more.

800mg of eq

25mcg yes mcg of t3 daily

You can run this for 12-15 weeks

If super lean and wanna add alittle more during this or after

8-10iu of humalog post workout

Or 8-10iu of r shot 20 min before completing workout

Start at 5iu workup to 10iu no more then that

Only on worklout days 4-8 weeks max

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